8.5 mm Messner Mag. Load Data & Reloading Guide

Rifle

Also known as: 8.5mm Messner Magnum, 8.5×64mm Messner

About 8.5 mm Messner Mag.

The 8.5 mm Messner Magnum is a relatively new addition to the world of firearms, primarily emerging from the desire for a versatile, high-performance cartridge. Originally developed in the early 21st century by a small group of European enthusiasts, the cartridge sought to balance power, accuracy, and recoil management. Its designers envisioned a cartridge that would excel in both hunting and precision shooting competitions by offering superior ballistics in a medium-large rifle caliber.

Technically, the 8.5 mm Messner Magnum utilizes a rebated rim, allowing it to fit into actions designed for similar high-performance cartridges. It achieves its power from an extended case that holds a significant powder charge, propelling bullets with high velocity and energy. The typical bullet diameter is around 8.5 mm, which is approximately 0.335 inches, with typical bullet weights ranging from 200 to 250 grains. This range provides flexibility for different shooting applications, enhancing its versatility.

In terms of ballistic performance, the 8.5 mm Messner Magnum is known for maintaining high velocity and a flat trajectory over long ranges. This makes it an excellent choice for hunting large or difficult-to-reach game, where extended precision and energy retention are paramount. From a competition standpoint, the high ballistic coefficient of its bullets allows for superior wind resistance, which is advantageous in precision shooting and long-range competitions.

For reloaders, the 8.5 mm Messner Magnum offers several advantages. Its case design allows for consistent powder burn and efficient use of high-density powders, which can be tailored to optimize performance for specific bullets and barrel lengths. Additionally, reloading this caliber offers the opportunity to experiment with various bullet weights and types to further enhance its already impressive ballistic performance, tailoring loads specifically for hunting or competitive shooting scenarios. Furthermore, the availability of a wide array of bullets from manufacturers allows reloaders to fine-tune and customize their ammunition to extract maximum potential from the cartridge.

Technical Drawing

8.5 mm Messner Mag. technical drawing and load data

Technical Specifications

Maximum Pressure:63817 PSI / 4400 bar
Case Volume:106 Grains of Water
Primer Size:Large Rifle Magnum (LRM)
Safety Standard:C.I.P.
Bore Area:56.86 mm²
Barrel Diameter:0.338" / 8.6 mm
L3:2.508" / 63.7 mm
L6:3.465" / 88.0 mm

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Standard Load Data — 8.5 mm Messner Mag.

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Cutting Edge logo

.338 | 175gr | CutEdge ESP Raptor

BC G1: 0.13
108 powders600 loads
Nosler logo

.338 | 250gr | Nosler Partition Gold

BC G1: 0.473
76 powders488 loads
SAKO logo

.338 | 250gr | Sako Hammerhead

BC G1: 0.342
73 powders444 loads
TPM logo

.338 | 165gr | TPM XTLD

BC G1: 0.406
103 powders611 loads
Barnes logo

.338 | 185gr | Barnes TTSX BT

BC G1: 0.432
108 powders603 loads
Nosler logo

.338 | 200gr | Nosler Ballistic Silver Tip

BC G1: 0.414
97 powders599 loads
Barnes logo

.338 | 210gr | Barnes TTSX BT

BC G1: 0.482
100 powders597 loads
Barnes logo

.338 | 225gr | Barnes TTSX BT

BC G1: 0.514
101 powders591 loads
Swift logo

.338 | 210gr | Swift Scirocco

BC G1: 0.507
97 powders587 loads
Nosler logo

.338 | 225gr | Nosler Expansion Tip

BC G1: 0.611
98 powders586 loads
Cutting Edge logo

.338 | 225gr | CutEdge LZR

BC G1: 0.63
101 powders584 loads
Lehigh Defense logo

.338 | 230gr | Lehigh Defense Match Solid

BC G1: 0.641
93 powders582 loads
Sax logo

.338 | 172gr | Sax KDG-S

BC G1: 0.532
102 powders582 loads
Atomic 29 logo

.338 | 220gr | Atomic 29 HP

BC G1: 0.387
90 powders563 loads
Alaska Bullet Works logo

.338 | 200gr | Alaska Bullet Works Kodiak SP SPBC

BC G1: 0.512
94 powders560 loads
Sax logo

.338 | 138gr | Sax KJG-SR

98 powders555 loads
Lehigh Defense logo

.338 | 240gr | Lehigh Defense Match Solid

BC G1: 0.748
90 powders555 loads
Lehigh Defense logo

.338 | 245gr | Lehigh Defense Match Solid

BC G1: 0.896
93 powders544 loads
Woodleigh logo

.338 | 225gr | Woodleigh HS

88 powders539 loads
Nosler logo

.338 | 210gr | Nosler Partition

BC G1: 0.4
87 powders530 loads
Nosler logo

.338 | 230gr | Nosler CT FailSafe

BC G1: 0.436
84 powders527 loads
Cutting Edge logo

.338 | 225gr | CutEdge Maximus

89 powders526 loads
Nosler logo

.338 | 225gr | Nosler AccuBond

BC G1: 0.55BC G7: 0.281
88 powders520 loads
Alaska Bullet Works logo

.338 | 200gr | Alaska Bullet Works Kodiak SP SPFN

BC G1: 0.417
87 powders517 loads

Frequently Asked Questions

The maximum pressure for 8.5 mm Messner Mag. is 63,817 psi | 4,400 bar.

8.5 mm Messner Mag. typically uses a Large Rifle Magnum (LRM) primer.

The case capacity of 8.5 mm Messner Mag. is approximately 106 grains of water (H₂O).